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LouiseMc
#1 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 9:27:04 AM Quote
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Morning all

Just wondered if anyone can help, with RA are we fully protected?

Im keep worrying about work. I have had a lot of time off with RA, not in one block/period but if i was to add all the days up I'm sure it would come to a lot!

I'm having a flare again & I was off work last Monday to Wednesday, went back Thursday & Friday but that has not helped me at all. As i have been in pain all weekend so today I have called in sick again, I have a Dr's appointment tonight and Im thinking of asking to be signed off for the week so i can fully rest, so very tired as well.

I saw Occ Health in August, they confirmed to my employer that I am fit for work but there will be occasional episodes of absence if I have a flare up, which unfortunately has happened already. He also stated that it is in his opinion that the Disability provisions of the Equality Act are likely to apply as this condition has a substantial adverse effect on daily living.

Im just so worried what with job cuts in my Company, but i wondered if another route they could take would be to stop paying me sick pay?

Going back to my occ report, i was cross because i had asked for the report to be sent to me to review before being sent to my employer but HR sent it to my TL first, so he gave me a copy!! I know there is nothing to hide but i just wanted to make sure everything had been fully explained. My TL said to me, it doesn't say much, yet it was a page and a half! Think he only read the adjustment recommendation bit!

Lou xx

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fantomchick
#2 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 5:54:26 PM Quote
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Hi Louise

As long as your employer knows you have RA then you are definitely covered under disability discrimination laws.

Have you talked to them about any adjustments they could make that might help, e.g. working less hours for a while etc. They are legal obliged to make adjustments for you unless they have a very good reason why they can't.

My employer lets me work from home 2 days a week which really helps.

If you have concerns you could always call ACAS. I found them very helpful plus they keep your call on file incase you have to call again so they can just refer to it instead of you having to repeat everything.

Hope you feel a bit better soon

Amy xx
aloha09
#3 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 5:54:59 PM Quote
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Hi there,

Im glad its not just me that worrys about work. Ive been struggling for a couple of weeks with pain and fatigue, and basically been in bed since thurs eve! In some ways its lucky i only work monday to thursday, so usually try to rest at weekends as i can't afford to be of work. But i have had to call in sick today, but i don't get sick pay - only stat sick after the first week as i work for a very small private company.

I rung my docs today, can't get an app for 2 weeks! But im allowed a phone call on Wed which i think is shocking, when someone is in chronic pain. I don't have a rheumy app till Jan either!

Im scared all the time i'm gonna loose my job, and to add to the pressure my boyfriend was made redundant a couple of months ago and is only working part time too so were only just paying the mortgage etc. Its helped having today of, and i know if i take the rest of the week of it will help but because of the above i just don't know what to do!

Im still new to all of this as was only diagnosed in May. I know other people in the past have said call the rheumy nurse, but i don't know if i would be able to. Just not sure what type of system runs at my hospital.
Just realised im jabbering on and haven't really answered your question, but its one id like to know the answer to!

Jen xxx
jenni_b
#4 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 10:47:35 PM Quote
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Really frightening I'm sure but you might need to think drastically about moving and renting.

It's a tough jobs market but I do think you need to consider different scenarios and how you would manage doing more part time

I was the breadwinner here and it's been very hard loosing that
But I've got good at juggling things
I got a bit of pension for teaching even though it was only 9 yrs

Also Richard works for the NHs so we got money towards a home on key workers
Things will come right
But you need to have a think about managing differently
I'm so sorry the ra has done this to you

Much love xx

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RichC
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:11:17 AM Quote
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There used to be an employment specialist available on the Helpline called Bob Campbell , i am not sure if he is still available but it would be worth telephoning the helpline .

Employment issues and Disability can be long drawn out affairs , so professional advice is recommended .


A good starting point for advice is the Direct.Gov pages

and the general disability pages here
Good telephone contacts

Dial

EHRC

ACAS

This is not an exhaustive list.. but hope they help

Rich
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:13:40 AM Quote
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Hi Louise & Jen - I can't offer much advice on your work issues, except to say how sorry I am that you're having such worries on top of feeling so rough.

Jen is right when she says that you will need to make adjustments to your lifestyle to allow for the RA but it's hard to think of such things when pain is at its strongest. So that has to be your first priority - get lots of rest and get to see your GP and ask for a sick note so you can really have time to allow your body to recover. Focus on relaxation as a part of your treatment plan. Explain to your boss that you're having a flare, give him/her the leaflets and say that the quickest way for you to get back to work is to take more time off now so you can really get the pain under control. Use the time to contact the rheumy and get your meds checked - but bear in mind there are no quick fixes and life will never return to exactly how it was before. Give yourself time to rebuild your strength and try not to worry until the flare subsides, keep focussing on the positive thoughts and believe that you'll find a solution.

I am thinking of you both - hope today is kinder to you - Sylvia xx
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:09:25 AM Quote
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this is so familiar on here,i went to dial for advice but i left work as the stress really tipped me over the edge,i was getting pushed out slowly anyway,had new company/managment take over and not very nice at that, but as rich has put up the sites it is worth looking,please remember the stress does agrivate the ra so i am afraid its a catch 22 till its sorted,cuddle for you,dorothy
LouiseMc
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:23:12 AM Quote
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Thank you for your advice, really helps. I had workplace adjustment made last year, so i do have a special chair, keyboard and a recently a headset. I think I'm worrying because it was after all this that i was then referred to Occ Health in August. Ive just been looking at my records and Ive had time off nearly every other month!! Sad so guess thats why i was referred and at the end of the day guess they have to protect themselves. The occ health report advised i can do my job but there will be times of absence.

I saw my GP last night, not my usual GP but he was really good and supportive and listened to me. I do hate it when Dr's look at the desk and don't look at you when you are talking!! He has signed me off for 2 weeks!! I told him that i feel guilty about work and said what every one else keeps telling me that if i sit at home worrying about work it will not help.

I've called my TL this morning to let him know, he seems ok and said to take care but then asked me for the dates of my last record of sickness as his forms are not up to date, he is pretty rubbish at doing return to work updates! I said i would call him Friday to update him and said that if things improve that maybe i could come back next week. But now Im thinking i should just stay off the two weeks and really get over this & rest!

Jen, sorry to hear that you are unable to get an appointment thats terrible. I'm sure you did but did you explain to the receptionist how much pain you are in? Have to push them sometimes don't we! I think you should call your Rheumy nurse, they are there for advice & support, they may suggest different pain killers or they may arrange to see you earlier? My nurse has done that before, especially if you are so much pain. When i was first diagnosed i did used to worry about calling, but they have told me so many times that i should call if there is a problem, so i do now.

I've had a telling off from hubby and my mum about worrying about work, it will still be there when we get back which is true but like you Jen i worry about losing my job but reading some of the info i think with our condition we should be ok hopefully, our health is more important isn't it. Right both of us should stop worrying! I've just thought of a plan, when i start to think of work i will pick up my book or do something to distract me. Smile

Take Care
Love
Lou xx
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Jane.
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57:01 PM Quote
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Smile Hi Lou.

Take the full 2 weeks because that is what the doctor has said.....work just don't get it (so frustrating) then you spend your time off just worrying about work.

Ask your husband to treat you to something that will benefit you and help you chill. Music/cd/ipod/ipod downloads. Flowers, massage, pamper session at beauty place - do you like having your nails done?! Foot soak - feet in bowl by the tv with your husband filling up the bowl and bringing it in (trying not to slop it on the way)! Then taking the bowl away after? Lovely candles. Have you tried yankee candles...really smelly (nice smelly) lots of choice of frag to choose. Some lovely dvd's. When I was off, I watched disney, mr bean, jonny english, gnomeo & juliet, lots of peppa pig (my daughter choice)!!
How about a fleece, wheat bag/hot water bottle on the sofa ?

The trick is to call it "me time" and push work to the back of your mind (I understand from experience the work bit) think of ways of chilling out!!! You are all urging me to mention a bottle of wine......NO! I haven't drunk since June (miss some guiness)!
Or some chocolate!!!

Hope you enjoy your "me time" !
Take care
Jane
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RichC
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:17:16 PM Quote
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LouiseMc wrote:
Ive just been looking at my records and Ive had time off nearly every other month!! Sad so guess thats why i was referred and at the end of the day guess they have to protect themselves. The occ health report advised i can do my job but there will be times of absence.


Lou xx


There was your quote and here is a quote from the Direct.gov pages:


Quote:
Performance records

If you take time off for disability-related sick leave, it is good practice for your employer to record it separately from other sick absences.

Time off from work should not be recorded as an 'absence from work' if you're waiting for your employer to put reasonable adjustments in place. Or your employer is conducting training for the use of these reasonable adjustments.


I would also get into chronological order all that has happened and start recording your own sick days .. That's the practical side to this ..

and you are right you can only do as much as your body lets you .. so rest up and read your book :)

Rich
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aloha09
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:13:13 PM Quote
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Thanks for the replies :)

I think the comments were right, i don't think i have found the right balance of rest yet. And id never thought about how stress can affect RA, i am such a worrier about things! I like your plan Lou, an oreo chocolate bar has helped distract me for a while tonight :)

Lets see what the doctor says in the phone call tomorrow, hopefully she is prepared to listen! Ive certainly learnt the last few months you really have to push for what you want ~(and crying makes them seem to listen too!!! ;) ) The part i fing funny about not getting an appt is i did tell the receptionist how bad i was, and she told the doctor who said i need to see her asap- but since when has 2 weeks been asap?!!!

And i think your right Lou, in terms of the work info thats been given here i think we'll be ok. So glad were able to use this forum for support and answers. But i found Richs last post interesting about keeping the different types of sick days seperate. So when i next see my boss (he's not often there as he's a special in the police) i'll ask him if he's been doing that.

Many thanks again, will let you know how i get on tomorrow :)

Jen xxx
Jane.
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:27:39 PM Quote
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Smile ThumpUp Thanks Rich
I hope you don't mind, I've saved your links to my home screen to have a good read through regarding to being at work with disabilities.

Thank you again.
Jane
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Naomi1
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:58:37 PM Quote
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Hi Louise. I just wanted to say that I've gone part time at work and that it was the right decision for me. It was very difficult to make this decision and it has required some juggling of my finances and plans but it has enabled me to manage my RA and keep a good attendance record. I know that if I tried to go back full time then I'd just make myself ill. I know not everyone has this option but it might be worth considering it if at all possible. Naomi.
LouiseMc
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:46:08 PM Quote
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Thank you all for our replies and support. Thank you Rich, thats is really helpful and interesting.

Think i will stay off next week as well, I'm so tired as well. I will take your advice Jane, next week will be me time!! BigGrin

Take Care
Love
Lou xx
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